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Ep. 5 The CLEARly Beneficial Podcast host, Vinny Catalano and guest, Dr. Raymond Fabius discuss Building a Culture of Health to Flatten Healthcare Costs

Healthcare’s Hidden Crisis: Why Culture, Not Just Negotiation, Flattens Costs

[Clip of Ep. 5 with host, Vinny Catalano, and guest, Dr. Raymond Fabius discuss that companies with a culture of health outperform the stock market by an average of 2% per year.]

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Most companies believe they’re doing everything right to manage healthcare expenses: they negotiate fiercely with insurers, switch plans regularly, and tighten eligibility requirements. Yet their healthcare costs keep rising, and so do employee dissatisfaction and turnover.

According to Dr. Raymond J. Fabius, co-founder and president of HealthNEXT and a physician executive with decades of leadership roles spanning academics, managed care, the health insurance industry, and major corporations, they’re missing something fundamental. The answer to unsustainable healthcare inflation isn’t just better deal-making. It’s building a genuine culture of health, safety, and well-being.

“The research is irrefutable,” Fabius explained during a recent conversation on the CLEARly Beneficial podcast, hosted by Sacramento-based healthcare consultant Vinny Catalano. “Organizations with a strong culture of health and well-being achieve moderate medical trends while simultaneously outperforming the stock market. You can’t negotiate your way to that outcome.”

This isn’t theoretical. It’s documented performance data—companies with genuine health cultures literally outperform Wall Street while controlling their healthcare costs. In a peer-reviewed study published in the Journal of Occupational and Environmental Medicine, Fabius found that companies with a culture of health outperform the stock market by an average of 2% per year. As Fabius himself stated in his research, “There’s been growing evidence that a healthy workforce offers a competitive advantage. The goal of our research is to demonstrate to corporate leadership, fund managers, and investors the real-world financial value of a commitment to employee health, safety, and well-being.”

That’s the outcome every employer should want, yet most never achieve it.

The Dual Strategy That Actually Works

For decades, employers have treated healthcare cost management as a binary choice: either negotiate harder with payers, or invest in wellness programs. Fabius argues this is a false choice.

“Combining strong negotiating skills with expertise in reducing healthcare needs leads to sustainable cost management,” he explained. “The most successful companies do both simultaneously.”

His experience spans the full spectrum of American healthcare. Fabius was global medical leader at General Electric, responsible for the health and safety of over 330,000 employees, and previously served as Chief Medical Officer of Truven Health Analytics (the healthcare business of Thomson Reuters). He’s witnessed firsthand what separates companies that crack the code from those perpetually frustrated by rising costs.

The key differentiator? Companies with strong health cultures employ strategic culture design—intentional environmental changes, incentive structures, and leadership commitment that actually shift employee behaviors over time, rather than relying on one-time wellness initiatives.

The 80/20 Rule Healthcare Leaders Ignore

Perhaps the most striking insight from the conversation centers on a fundamental truth about healthcare spending: a small percentage of workers account for the majority of healthcare expenses in any organization.

This isn’t new information. Yet most companies lack the infrastructure to actively manage the health of their highest-cost, highest-need employees. Even worse, mid-market companies often lack the clinical expertise within their HR and benefits departments to drive meaningful intervention.

“The challenge is particularly acute for organizations that don’t have physician executives guiding their healthcare strategy,” Catalano observed. “HR departments are exceptional at what they do, but healthcare expertise is a specialized skill set. When you don’t have a clinical leader involved in benefits strategy, you’re essentially flying blind on your biggest controllable expense.”

Fabius highlighted how complex case management—targeted, proactive support for high-need employees—yields exceptionally high returns. Yet this approach requires clinical sophistication most mid-market companies simply don’t possess.

Why Physician Executives Matter—And What It Actually Means

There’s a persistent misconception that physician executives in corporate settings are there to micromanage benefits decisions or second-guess HR professionals. That’s not the role.

“Clinical leadership brings essential credibility and evidence-based thinking to strategic healthcare planning,” Fabius emphasized. “It’s about ensuring that health initiatives are medically sound, appropriately targeted, and grounded in what actually moves health outcomes—not just what sounds good in a wellness brochure.”

Fabius himself has made considerable contributions to the health care quality movement, serving on the NCQA Standards Committee and HEDIS Measurement Advisory Panels. His perspective bridges the gap between clinical reality and business outcomes—a perspective most employers desperately need but don’t have access to.

For employers unable to hire full-time physician executives, HealthNEXT provides a gap analysis assessment and customized strategic guidance by comparing employers to best practices and identifying specific opportunities for improvement.

The C-Suite Must Own This Strategy

Perhaps the most important takeaway from the conversation was explicit: C-suite involvement in health strategy isn’t optional. It’s essential.

Fabius referenced Deloitte’s research on “The Health Savvy CEO,” advocating for executive leadership to take active ownership of healthcare cost management rather than delegating it entirely to HR or benefits teams. “Healthcare costs have a significant financial impact on organizational profitability,” he noted. “This deserves executive attention—the same attention you’d give to supply chain management or operations.”

Companies that implement cultures of health and well-being demonstrate measurable financial outperformance. This isn’t a fringe benefit initiative. It’s a core business strategy with bottom-line implications.

The Generational Advantage

The conversation took an optimistic turn when discussing generational health trends. In today’s dynamic healthcare system, population health management strategies can significantly contribute to true healthcare reform, and demographic shifts suggest progress is possible.

Fabius highlighted that Gen Z exhibits healthier behaviors than previous generations: dramatically reduced alcohol and tobacco use, decreased binge drinking rates, and increased openness about mental health. “These aren’t marginal improvements,” he noted. “Gen Z is showing us what’s possible when behavioral norms shift. The trajectory for population health in the coming decades looks genuinely promising.”

Technology Augments, But Humans Remain Essential

While acknowledging artificial intelligence’s potential in healthcare, both Fabius and Catalano emphasized a critical point: AI should augment rather than replace human expertise.

Technology can improve efficiency and support clinical decision-making. But population health initiatives that move outcomes require human connection—understanding individual circumstances, building employee trust, and adapting strategies to real-world complexity. The clinical judgment and empathy that effective case management demands can’t be automated.

A Movement Grounded in Mission

Fabius is a faculty member of the American College of Occupational and Environmental Medicine and the Jefferson College of Population Health at Thomas Jefferson University, where he’s recognized as a Distinguished Fellow of the American College of Physician Executives. He donates his book royalties from “Population Health: Creating Cultures of Wellness” to support the next generation of population health leaders and researchers.

This commitment to advancing the field beyond his consulting work reflects a deeper mission: demonstrating that population health campaigns have genuine potential to improve both employee well-being and organizational prosperity when implemented thoughtfully with the right combination of clinical expertise, leadership commitment, and sustained cultural change.

The Bottom Line

American employers are locked in a seemingly endless arms race of healthcare costs. But the solution isn’t more aggressive negotiation. It’s building cultures where health, safety, and well-being are genuine organizational priorities: where decisions are informed by clinical expertise, where leadership owns the strategy, and where intentional cultural design replaces wellness theater.

Dr. Fabius and his team at HealthNEXT are dedicated to developing organizational cultures of health, helping organizations move from cost-containment thinking to health-creation thinking. For employers ready to break the cycle, that distinction—and the strategic clarity it brings—may be the difference between perpetual frustration and genuine financial outperformance.

About Dr. Raymond J. Fabius and HealthNEXT

Dr. Raymond J. Fabius, MD, CPE, FACPE, is co-founder, president, and chief medical officer of HealthNEXT, a company dedicated to helping organizations develop cultures of health, safety, and well-being. A physician executive with over three decades of healthcare leadership experience, Dr. Fabius has held significant roles at General Electric (as Global Medical Leader responsible for 330,000+ employees), Truven Health Analytics (as Chief Medical Officer), and other major healthcare organizations. He’s a Distinguished Fellow of the American College of Physician Executives and faculty member at Jefferson College of Population Health at Thomas Jefferson University.

Through HealthNEXT (www.healthnext.com), Dr. Fabius and his team provide gap analysis assessments and customized strategic plans that help employers compare their health and wellness initiatives to best practices. The company specializes in bridging the expertise gap many mid-market employers face, bringing clinical leadership and evidence-based thinking to benefits strategy. Dr. Fabius is also the co-author of “Population Health: Creating Cultures of Wellness,” a graduate school textbook used nationwide, with all royalties donated to support the next generation of population health leaders.

About CLEAR Healthcare Solutions

CLEAR Healthcare Solutions is a consulting firm specializing in medical practice improvement, employee benefit strategy, point solution go-to-market strategy, expense reduction, and healthcare and insurance education. The company leverages over two decades of industry relationships and expertise to bring fresh perspectives to healthcare and business challenges.

About The CLEARly Beneficial Podcast

The CLEARly Beneficial podcast rips off the band-aid on healthcare and explores the future of benefits with industry innovators. Whether you’re an insurance broker, HR professional, employer, or engaged professional, the podcast delivers straight talk and actionable insights from someone with decades in the trenches. The show takes a solution-oriented approach, featuring conversations with healthcare CEOs, authors, innovators, and leaders driving positive change across industries.

New episodes are released weekly on all major podcast platforms.

For more information, visit www.clearhcs.com or connect with Vinny Catalano on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/vcatalano.

Disclaimer: This content is for educational purposes only. Please discuss your specific situation with your health benefits administrator or insurance provider for personalized guidance.

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